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What do You Think of Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate?

Postby Sunshine on Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:05 am

I have been seeing this retinoid in a few products and was wondering about it.

Here is a description of it:

Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate is the cosmetic ester of all-transretinoic acid and, unlike retinol esters, does not require metabolic conversion to be in the preferred active form for interacting with retinoic RAR receptors to obtain benefits of vitamin A.

Kevin, have you heard of this, and what do you know about it, and any research about it?

I was, mainly, curious about it. :D
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Re: What do You Think of Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate?

Postby kevin on Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:01 pm

Typically, when I see a new ingredient I am skeptical. But, because it is a retinoid I did a little digging. The derivative is made by a company called Grant Industries. Their clinical studies show that they used 5 participants over one month which does not make a study in my opinion. If this was a compound worth studying (i.e. econominc potential) they would have 100s of participants over a longer period of time.

Esters on the retinoid food chain are not as effective as retinol or retinoic acid, so I am going to say that this ingredient is probably not effective. However, if some third party independent clincical data shows up, I would be happy to reevaluate my opinoin.

Bottom line, I would save my money on products containing Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate... for now.
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Re: What do You Think of Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate?

Postby Jonas on Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:02 pm

Kevin,

I read your reply concerning hydroxypinacolone retinoate with great interest. I have some passing familiarity with the subject (of retinoids) and would ask you why you'd consider a retinoic acid ester, which should hydrolyze fairly readily to retinoic acid in vivo, probably less effective than Vitamin A (retinol)?

Your point about the limited size of Grant's sample in their efficacy study is well taken, but it must be taken with some salt and pepper! "Granted", the size of Grant's study was small, but this does not necessarily mean that Grant perceives the economic value of their innovation to be small. Grant is a small company -- family owned -- despite its biochemical innovations, which would embarrass many a larger biotechnology company. Looking at this another way: Grant and their innovative clients (many of which are small cosmetics companies) and ultimately cosmetics customers are not going to have to pay $75.00 for a cosmetically inferior prescription ointment like Retin-A, because Grant didn't have to finance a massive FDA-style study.

Count me as "cautiously enthusiastic" about Grant's hydroxypinacolone retinoate additive systems. Grant may in fact be enabling a line of cosmeceutical innovation here: truly effective (though safe and mild) antiaging, antipsoriatic, etc cosmetics, without the price tag and risks of industrial strength medicinal retinoids like all-trans retinoic acid (Retin-A).
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Re: What do You Think of Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate?

Postby kevin on Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:08 pm

I too will be cautiously enthusiastic, but more needs to be done. I am all for innovation and I am all too aware of the economic challenges for small innovative companies...we are one too. :wink:
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